Jürgen Liminski: The demonstrations in the region and to keep them in focus like a magnifying glass in the hopes of many people in Egypt, the Maghreb (Tunisia, Morocco, Libya, Mauritania) and also throughout the Middle East. There are hopes of freedom and democracy, and the protesters are overwhelmingly people with mobile phones, Internet-savvy young and cosmopolitan. A representative cross-section of the populations it is not. As always, you call democracy [1], is also in Islamic countries, and the big question: How capable of democracy is Islam? What form of government is the closest to the ideas of the Koran or the Islamic tradition? Can there be a lasting secularism (the separation of politics and religion) of Islamic states in general? falls
[1] When I read that says Jürgen Liminski of Germany radio, that the people demand democracy in North Africa, then to me the article "The protesters are not about democracy" by berlinonline.de again. The article about the editor Gabriele Riedle of "Geo magazine" reports that are staying for three weeks in Libya. When asked, "What do the protesters," answered the reporter: "In any case, not a democracy. It is about distribution of power to settle old scores, for revenge. I met not one person spoke of democracy. "Liminski: welcome to these questions, I Islam expert and multiple book author Hans-Peter Raddatz. Good morning, Mr. Raddatz.
Next I find the article" What do the Egyptians really "again. The article deals with a study by the American Pew Research Center, "the adult Muslims in 2010 in seven Muslim countries for their religious and political views surveyed. The study concluded that the Egyptians have not so interested in democracy, but they want one thing above all, that is more Islamic.
84 percent of Egyptian Muslims urged to punish apostates from Islam with death, 82 percent supported the stoning of adulterers, 77 percent thought it right to cut off thieves hands, 54 percent wanted the separation of the sexes in the workplace, as many were suicide attacks against civilians are justified, about half sympathized with Hamas (Palestine), one third with Hezbollah (Lebanon) and at least one-fifth reported a positive of opinion about al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden have.
Hans-Peter Raddatz: Good morning, Mr. Liminski.
Liminski: Mr. Raddatz, the call for democracy now sounds somewhat more subdued than it was a few weeks, but he is clearly audible. Can there be in a Muslim country like Egypt or Libya, a democracy based on Western ideas?
Raddatz: That is the question we have for many years and so far from the so-called interfaith or intercultural have dialogue that is so operated for many years between the West and the Muslims do not answer is. And to move directly to the core of your question: Islam has no history, would have the democratic structures can generate.
The upheaval we are experiencing today orient far, are of course the answer to the knowledge of television and other media that it is received differently in the West than Islam itself, you have just addressed the young generation, which of course is most affected thereof and which is also the most open these Western forms of civilization over. But Islam itself is based on the Koran and the Prophet's tradition of so-called [2], this results the Islamic law and Islamic law regulates the daily life of every detail and there is no room for democratic development. If we parliaments had been in the Orient, it was the patch or it's patch structures that have their Constitution, but ultimately the Sharia or the Qur'an, and so is the talk of democratic developments in Egypt and elsewhere, a political issue. So easy on the drawing board, they can not develop democracy in the East, we can not.
[2] With the Prophet's tradition, the hadith are meant. As the hadith refers to the traditions of Mohammed third. They deal with Mohammed's statements about his Recommendations, and especially by his religious and moral prohibitions and warnings that are not mentioned in the Koran.Liminski: include separation of powers principle of democracy with an independent judiciary, press freedom, freedom, pluralism among the parties. Is that not compatible with Islamic ideas? In Egypt, seems to go there so a bit in that direction.
Raddatz: Since you have again called another very important word, namely the control of the judiciary, and as you probably unwittingly bring the keyword of the Muslim Brotherhood into the conversation. The Muslim Brothers are by far the largest and Islam-far most powerful organization that a social arm has all sorts of activities for women, students, workers, and so on, on the other hand, a crystal clear arm that the orthodoxy (orthodoxy, religious bigotry), the Islamic orthodoxy, so that the Sharia and want to preserve the Islamic law. And the Muslim Brotherhood have now, particularly in Egypt and Saudi Arabia for supremacy, which concerns the right to the influences on the legal profession, judiciary and so on, have seized. They have a march through the institutions behind them. In this respect, one can only describe it as a matter of time before the Muslim brothers in the government in Egypt.
Liminski: In Islamic countries, Mr. Raddatz is the unity of church and state. "Din wa Dawla" is the technical term. Is a secularization of how Europe has experienced, possible without destroying the essence of Islam? In Turkey, seems to have managed it so at first glance. In any case, Prime Minister Erdogan has vowed yesterday evening in Dusseldorf the democratic conditions of Turkey. [3]
[3] Dear Liminski who described Turkey as a democratic state should, please take a closer look. Turkey is a democratic state to be far away. Turkey has in recent years more and more moved towards an Islamic state. Which Way is in Turkey, religious freedom? It would not be surprised if Turkey was once the secularization, the separation of religion and politics, and abolished the Sharia law introduced again.Raddatz: Well, that Mr Erdogan is entered in the recent past with all sorts of statements to the public, show the opposite. He has called before not too long ago, the Democracy as a barbaric form of government and all sorts of things more in that direction. So I would look at Mr. Erdogan's statements again and again only as a fig leaf for each situation required.
forget, but we do not that has taken place in Turkey a significant re-Islamization. The last 20 years have been characterized by such, and Mr. Erdogan is leading an Islamist party, we must not forget. On the other hand, we naturally have in Europe to determine a distance of movement of democracy itself. We need to look only to the EU. Give up sovereignty (Unanhängigkeit, self-determination) of EU countries in Brussels, to a level that is not chosen is in itself proof enough, apart from the party-state structures that we in the EU countries, especially to Germany have is only proof that we ourselves in a non- just resolution process, but in a process are, who scratches serious about the rules of democracy, so therefore, when speaking of Egypt, which is on the way to democracy, should be, then we always have this, our own or politically propagated must have democracy concept in mind, the just is not what the Constitution says. The practical experience of democracy we have to do less and less with the requirements set out in writing the Constitution.
Liminski: But we have seen a secularization in Europe. Is this possible secularization in Islamic countries?
Raddatz: Excuse I'm still not received it, but the question is of course to meet immediately, because secularism is primarily science. The secularization in Europe has been driven in scientific circles to this very day and so a movement is, could there and will there be until further not in Islam, because science diametrically (opposite) to the Islamic law of collecting the individual through the rules of the Koran and the traditions of conflict. That's the main reason why the science (in the Islamic countries) is ailing all the time already. There will always talk, without Islam, Europe would have really can not even be given the scientific Achievements of the Muslims. Which has given it [4], but who in the 12th, 13th Century ended, while has therefore set in the Renaissance with us the scientific movement in motion. We have the phenomenon that we have 700 years ago, so to speak, carried out a diametric reversal, and in these 700 years, the scientific development and that is therefore the secularization of Islam has been blocked as we have developed in the usual way.
[4] If one says that the Islamic sciences had given it, this is only partly true, since the "golden age" of Islam, the so-called "Golden Age of Islam", was AD primarily between 635th and 1099 AD. when Muslims 464 years long Jewish, Christian, parsiche, Buddhist and Hindu countries invaded, the non-Muslims murdered or forced Islamized: (Palestine, Syria, Jordan, Israel, Morocco, Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, Libya, Iran, Iraq, Spain, Portugal, parts of France, Sicily, Greece, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Romania, Armenia, Turkey (Byzantium), Cyprus, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan, India, China and Pakistan.) Then they forced Jewish, Christian and other scholars to work for Muslims. The scientific achievements, the imputed to the Muslims, have been thus rendered largely invisible by Muslims themselves (see also: The Golden Age of Islam "is a myth ) The terror of the Muslims against the Christian countries did not stop until, when Pope Urban II for the first crusade against Islam calling to get back to the Crusades continue. (See: The reasons for the Christian Crusades )So far here is also the historical development clearly against secularization, and if it is to take place at all, then it can only be balanced, as it were organic, when I use this somewhat aberrant expression times may access it, be done, but not overnight in the retort are cultivated (artificially). That's impossible.
Liminski: democracy and Islam, a combination with many question marks. This was in Germany Radio Islam expert and multiple book author Hans-Peter Raddatz. Thank you for the interview, Mr. Raddatz.
Raddatz: You're welcome.
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